Comments on: The positive side of the economic collapse for media http://steveouting.com/2008/11/19/the-positive-side-of-the-economic-collapse-for-media/ Journalist, consultant, entrepreneur ... Musings on digital media, Web 2.0/3.0, & news in the Internet era Wed, 02 May 2012 20:38:02 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Paul http://steveouting.com/2008/11/19/the-positive-side-of-the-economic-collapse-for-media/comment-page-1/#comment-141118 Paul Wed, 08 Jun 2011 22:50:06 +0000 http://steveouting.com/?p=608#comment-141118 It's 2011 now and we still have magazines in print... It’s 2011 now and we still have magazines in print…

]]> By: PC Mag shuts print edition to focus online | The Evolving Newsroom http://steveouting.com/2008/11/19/the-positive-side-of-the-economic-collapse-for-media/comment-page-1/#comment-15367 PC Mag shuts print edition to focus online | The Evolving Newsroom Sat, 10 Jan 2009 06:59:23 +0000 http://steveouting.com/?p=608#comment-15367 [...] to Steve Outing via Twitter for the link. Steve had this to say on the [...] [...] to Steve Outing via Twitter for the link. Steve had this to say on the [...]

]]> By: mel taylor http://steveouting.com/2008/11/19/the-positive-side-of-the-economic-collapse-for-media/comment-page-1/#comment-13160 mel taylor Mon, 24 Nov 2008 01:17:16 +0000 http://steveouting.com/?p=608#comment-13160 agreed, the current economy will dramatically accelerate the transition of all media. I would suggest that a good bit of the legacy managers will not make it thru the turmoil, cutbacks, and rebound. agreed, the current economy will dramatically accelerate the transition of all media. I would suggest that a good bit of the legacy managers will not make it thru the turmoil, cutbacks, and rebound.

]]> By: Scott Hepburn http://steveouting.com/2008/11/19/the-positive-side-of-the-economic-collapse-for-media/comment-page-1/#comment-13004 Scott Hepburn Fri, 21 Nov 2008 16:50:21 +0000 http://steveouting.com/?p=608#comment-13004 It will always be the case in a free-market system that economic factors will drive change, not social pressure. Detroit isn't going to make energy efficient cars just because someone says "golly gee, you sure oughtta." They'll do it when we no longer have enough gasoline to fuel their product, or when the cost of gasoline makes their product unaffordable to consumers. Expecting publications to go all-online just because the technology is there is, and always has been, a delusional fantasy. I love reading online, but until recently, the money has been there in print, not the Web. Now that the money is no longer there in print, we'll see if the Web can fill the void. It will always be the case in a free-market system that economic factors will drive change, not social pressure.

Detroit isn’t going to make energy efficient cars just because someone says “golly gee, you sure oughtta.” They’ll do it when we no longer have enough gasoline to fuel their product, or when the cost of gasoline makes their product unaffordable to consumers.

Expecting publications to go all-online just because the technology is there is, and always has been, a delusional fantasy. I love reading online, but until recently, the money has been there in print, not the Web. Now that the money is no longer there in print, we’ll see if the Web can fill the void.

]]> By:   links for 2008-11-20 — contentious.com http://steveouting.com/2008/11/19/the-positive-side-of-the-economic-collapse-for-media/comment-page-1/#comment-12891   links for 2008-11-20 — contentious.com Thu, 20 Nov 2008 15:00:41 +0000 http://steveouting.com/?p=608#comment-12891 [...] The positive side of the economic collapse for media: SteveOuting.com "This morning I posted a few words to my Twitter account about PC Magazine’s decision to cease print publication… [...] [...] The positive side of the economic collapse for media: SteveOuting.com "This morning I posted a few words to my Twitter account about PC Magazine’s decision to cease print publication… [...]

]]> By: Future of newspapers « Melanie Thompson’s Blog http://steveouting.com/2008/11/19/the-positive-side-of-the-economic-collapse-for-media/comment-page-1/#comment-12847 Future of newspapers « Melanie Thompson’s Blog Thu, 20 Nov 2008 03:21:19 +0000 http://steveouting.com/?p=608#comment-12847 [...] November 19, 2008 by melyt Christian Science Monitor and PC Magazine are both pulling their issues off the shelves in favor for online versions. This is simply where things are headed — here’s a great post about this.  [...] [...] November 19, 2008 by melyt Christian Science Monitor and PC Magazine are both pulling their issues off the shelves in favor for online versions. This is simply where things are headed — here’s a great post about this.  [...]

]]> By: Amy Gahran http://steveouting.com/2008/11/19/the-positive-side-of-the-economic-collapse-for-media/comment-page-1/#comment-12828 Amy Gahran Wed, 19 Nov 2008 23:19:35 +0000 http://steveouting.com/?p=608#comment-12828 How dare you call me a "guru?" :-) Actually, it'll be interesting to see how monthly & national magazines shed their print editions, since I think that (moreso than newspapers) is where readers have a stronger bond to the print experience. But we'll see... - Amy Gahran How dare you call me a “guru?” :-)

Actually, it’ll be interesting to see how monthly & national magazines shed their print editions, since I think that (moreso than newspapers) is where readers have a stronger bond to the print experience. But we’ll see…

- Amy Gahran

]]> By: Patrick Thornton http://steveouting.com/2008/11/19/the-positive-side-of-the-economic-collapse-for-media/comment-page-1/#comment-12827 Patrick Thornton Wed, 19 Nov 2008 23:03:57 +0000 http://steveouting.com/?p=608#comment-12827 @Steve, I think you're both right. It's unfortunate that it had to come to this, because the economic crisis will make this transformation much more jarring. This isn't just a journalism issue, however. High gas prices are what got Americans talking about alternative fuels. If prices stay lower like they are now, that surge to ween ourselves off of foreign oil will die again. It's kind of sad that it takes crisis for many industries in the U.S. to change. We all know that the journalism industry needs to change. There just isn't a serious future in a non-free daily print publication (and if e-readers become popular, even free, commuter papers will have no future). We've known for years that online and mobile were the future. Yet, this economic crisis is what ultimately will force companies hands. Had industry executives come to this realization a decade ago (during the dot com boom, when everyone realized that the Web rocked), we wouldn't be in this mess. Journalism would be better off. Yet, again, however, we've waited until we got to the edge of the precipice to realize that we needed to change course. This is going to be on bumpy ride. @Steve,

I think you’re both right. It’s unfortunate that it had to come to this, because the economic crisis will make this transformation much more jarring.

This isn’t just a journalism issue, however. High gas prices are what got Americans talking about alternative fuels. If prices stay lower like they are now, that surge to ween ourselves off of foreign oil will die again.

It’s kind of sad that it takes crisis for many industries in the U.S. to change. We all know that the journalism industry needs to change. There just isn’t a serious future in a non-free daily print publication (and if e-readers become popular, even free, commuter papers will have no future). We’ve known for years that online and mobile were the future. Yet, this economic crisis is what ultimately will force companies hands.

Had industry executives come to this realization a decade ago (during the dot com boom, when everyone realized that the Web rocked), we wouldn’t be in this mess. Journalism would be better off. Yet, again, however, we’ve waited until we got to the edge of the precipice to realize that we needed to change course.

This is going to be on bumpy ride.

]]> By: John Fischer http://steveouting.com/2008/11/19/the-positive-side-of-the-economic-collapse-for-media/comment-page-1/#comment-12826 John Fischer Wed, 19 Nov 2008 23:02:33 +0000 http://steveouting.com/?p=608#comment-12826 The same lesson applies to all businesses. If you think the productivity gains of the booming 'net' 90s were big, just wait till you see what a technology focused economy does with a recession. I see big gains coming.... I also predict that these productivity gains will be the primary economic factor that leads us out of a recession. The same lesson applies to all businesses. If you think the productivity gains of the booming ‘net’ 90s were big, just wait till you see what a technology focused economy does with a recession. I see big gains coming….

I also predict that these productivity gains will be the primary economic factor that leads us out of a recession.

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