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	<title>Comments on: Stop it, already! Enough with mis-use of &#8216;hits&#8217;!</title>
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		<title>By: Stu Lowndes</title>
		<link>http://steveouting.com/2009/03/17/stop-it-already-enough-with-mis-use-of-hits/comment-page-1/#comment-20164</link>
		<dc:creator>Stu Lowndes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Mar 2009 17:47:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Steve,

Nitpickin&#039; again, I see ...

Although one of the greatest nitpickers was the late Paul (Dodo) McKenna Davis of The Montreal Star, he was also one of the greatest copy editors I have ever had the pleasure to work with in my career.

Meanwhile, don&#039;t get your Strunk and White into an uproar against these cubs who pimp the language in the world&#039;s second-oldest profession, and simply tweak your outdated AP style book to accept a scrolling marquee of dot-com ignorance. 

May I also remind you of the current and popular meaning of &quot;hacker?&quot; 

This word was once used with some compassion to describe a particular trait of certain gifted individuals who could expose the many secrets of hardware and software. Today, it has become a much-maligned definition twisted and tortured by spin-doctors who dwell beneath a bridge and in the corporate darkness of angels and demons.   

A “page-view,” as described, is simply not a connective accepted by Johnny Mnemonic and the virtual regiment of editorial bladerunners on the Web. It just ain&#039;t sexy, sweetheart, and only used, or so it seems, by the clowns of commerce in marketing and advertising.

But, then again, (we) had created this ambiguous conundrum in our own industry, didn&#039;t we?

Define, if you will, the circulation figures of The Daily Rag?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Steve,</p>
<p>Nitpickin&#8217; again, I see &#8230;</p>
<p>Although one of the greatest nitpickers was the late Paul (Dodo) McKenna Davis of The Montreal Star, he was also one of the greatest copy editors I have ever had the pleasure to work with in my career.</p>
<p>Meanwhile, don&#8217;t get your Strunk and White into an uproar against these cubs who pimp the language in the world&#8217;s second-oldest profession, and simply tweak your outdated AP style book to accept a scrolling marquee of dot-com ignorance. </p>
<p>May I also remind you of the current and popular meaning of &#8220;hacker?&#8221; </p>
<p>This word was once used with some compassion to describe a particular trait of certain gifted individuals who could expose the many secrets of hardware and software. Today, it has become a much-maligned definition twisted and tortured by spin-doctors who dwell beneath a bridge and in the corporate darkness of angels and demons.   </p>
<p>A “page-view,” as described, is simply not a connective accepted by Johnny Mnemonic and the virtual regiment of editorial bladerunners on the Web. It just ain&#8217;t sexy, sweetheart, and only used, or so it seems, by the clowns of commerce in marketing and advertising.</p>
<p>But, then again, (we) had created this ambiguous conundrum in our own industry, didn&#8217;t we?</p>
<p>Define, if you will, the circulation figures of The Daily Rag?</p>
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		<title>By: Patrick Thornton</title>
		<link>http://steveouting.com/2009/03/17/stop-it-already-enough-with-mis-use-of-hits/comment-page-1/#comment-20093</link>
		<dc:creator>Patrick Thornton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Mar 2009 16:22:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Steve,

I couldn&#039;t agree more. Nothing proves better ones glibness of the Web than when they use hit instead of page view. Hit is a real term, and as you pointed out, it means something else.

Even page views don&#039;t tell me that much without knowing visitors, uniques and time spent. A lot newspapers have built their sites to essentially game the system. They only put a few hundred words on a page and force a user to click to another page to read more of the story.

Advertisers aren&#039;t that stupid.

And users hate this.

@David,

It&#039;s not about getting with the times. It&#039;s about misusing one term for another. Both have relevant uses.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Steve,</p>
<p>I couldn&#8217;t agree more. Nothing proves better ones glibness of the Web than when they use hit instead of page view. Hit is a real term, and as you pointed out, it means something else.</p>
<p>Even page views don&#8217;t tell me that much without knowing visitors, uniques and time spent. A lot newspapers have built their sites to essentially game the system. They only put a few hundred words on a page and force a user to click to another page to read more of the story.</p>
<p>Advertisers aren&#8217;t that stupid.</p>
<p>And users hate this.</p>
<p>@David,</p>
<p>It&#8217;s not about getting with the times. It&#8217;s about misusing one term for another. Both have relevant uses.</p>
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		<title>By: David Hakala, Denver, CO</title>
		<link>http://steveouting.com/2009/03/17/stop-it-already-enough-with-mis-use-of-hits/comment-page-1/#comment-20091</link>
		<dc:creator>David Hakala, Denver, CO</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Mar 2009 15:53:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Gay&quot; used to mean &quot;happy&quot;, Steve. Get with the times.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Gay&#8221; used to mean &#8220;happy&#8221;, Steve. Get with the times.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark Potts</title>
		<link>http://steveouting.com/2009/03/17/stop-it-already-enough-with-mis-use-of-hits/comment-page-1/#comment-20057</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark Potts</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Mar 2009 04:11:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Spot on, Steve. I wrote a note to a managing editor of a major paper about this about five years ago. I still see the mistake all the time. It&#039;s not helped by the fact that at least one of the major Web stat packages makes exactly the same mistake in its reports. Grrrr.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Spot on, Steve. I wrote a note to a managing editor of a major paper about this about five years ago. I still see the mistake all the time. It&#8217;s not helped by the fact that at least one of the major Web stat packages makes exactly the same mistake in its reports. Grrrr.</p>
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