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		<title>By: Journalism’s woes don’t resonate &#124; Hypercrit</title>
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		<dc:creator>Journalism’s woes don’t resonate &#124; Hypercrit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Oct 2009 04:25:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] report, which I’m about halfway done read­ing. Journalism veteran-turned-consultant Steve Outing noted on his blog that the report doesn’t offer a lot of new infor­ma­tion for the peo­ple who are [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] report, which I’m about halfway done read­ing. Journalism veteran-turned-consultant Steve Outing noted on his blog that the report doesn’t offer a lot of new infor­ma­tion for the peo­ple who are [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Commentary on Downie and Schudson&#8217;s &#8220;The Reconstruction of American Journalism&#8221; &#171; Pursuing the Complete Community Connection</title>
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		<dc:creator>Commentary on Downie and Schudson&#8217;s &#8220;The Reconstruction of American Journalism&#8221; &#171; Pursuing the Complete Community Connection</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Oct 2009 18:22:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Steve Outing, speculated that the primary audience for Downie and Schudson might well be foundations and philanthropists. [...]</description>
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		<title>By: I respond to Michael Schudson&#8217;s defense of &#8220;Reconstructing Journalism&#8221; report &#171; Pursuing the Complete Community Connection</title>
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		<dc:creator>I respond to Michael Schudson&#8217;s defense of &#8220;Reconstructing Journalism&#8221; report &#171; Pursuing the Complete Community Connection</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Oct 2009 04:07:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] they didn&#8217;t know. Of course, my intended audience was the executives of media companies. As Steve Outing has speculated, the primary audience for Downie and Schudson might well be foundations and philanthropists who [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] they didn&#8217;t know. Of course, my intended audience was the executives of media companies. As Steve Outing has speculated, the primary audience for Downie and Schudson might well be foundations and philanthropists who [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Tweetlinks, 10-20-09 [A Blog Around The Clock] &#171; Technology Blogs</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tweetlinks, 10-20-09 [A Blog Around The Clock] &#171; Technology Blogs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Oct 2009 04:31:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Downie-Schudson journalism report: Who are they writing for? [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Steve Outing</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve Outing</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Oct 2009 17:25:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Josh: My experience of late has been that there&#039;s not much of a groundswell from the public about the &quot;news crisis.&quot; Media is held in low esteem currently (thanks, especially, cable TV news!), so investigative reporting units being scrapped and reporters losing jobs isn&#039;t exactly resonating. It&#039;s mostly the media geeks, journalism academics, and a few informed media outsiders who care about the issue.

I wonder if more of a public outreach is required. If we who are working on these issues can get others outraged about the situation, in larger numbers, perhaps that will help free up more foundation money, and get more public officials thinking about how they can help without compromising journalists&#039; objectivity.

In some projects I&#039;m working on for the University of Colorado, I&#039;ve spent some time with recently laid off investigative reporters as they try to regroup and continue their craft outside of a big corporation. Each of them has a list of significant stories -- government or business or land use corruption, malfeasance, misuse of taxpayer money, etc. -- that they know about but are not covering.

So here&#039;s an idea, perhaps for SaveTheNews: Crowdsource from laid-off reporters a list of uncovered, public-interest stories that the public does not know about because there are no journalists available to cover them due to lack of funding for an investigation. Publicize that big-time.

Investigative reporting often sparks public outrage and wrongs get righted. Might the public also be outraged by wrongdoing that continues because there are not enough watchdogs to do the work it takes to stop it?

I forgot who said it, but a quote a recall recently predicted a period of low-level corruption growing in many cities where traditional media have declined significantly.

Could publicizing this to a broader audience be a more effective strategy than issuing reports, like the Columbia one released yesterday, that get read mostly by media people? If commercial models cannot be found to support large-scale accountability journalism in the wake of old media failures, surely we need to get more people interested in supporting the new wave of press watchdogs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Josh: My experience of late has been that there&#8217;s not much of a groundswell from the public about the &#8220;news crisis.&#8221; Media is held in low esteem currently (thanks, especially, cable TV news!), so investigative reporting units being scrapped and reporters losing jobs isn&#8217;t exactly resonating. It&#8217;s mostly the media geeks, journalism academics, and a few informed media outsiders who care about the issue.</p>
<p>I wonder if more of a public outreach is required. If we who are working on these issues can get others outraged about the situation, in larger numbers, perhaps that will help free up more foundation money, and get more public officials thinking about how they can help without compromising journalists&#8217; objectivity.</p>
<p>In some projects I&#8217;m working on for the University of Colorado, I&#8217;ve spent some time with recently laid off investigative reporters as they try to regroup and continue their craft outside of a big corporation. Each of them has a list of significant stories &#8212; government or business or land use corruption, malfeasance, misuse of taxpayer money, etc. &#8212; that they know about but are not covering.</p>
<p>So here&#8217;s an idea, perhaps for SaveTheNews: Crowdsource from laid-off reporters a list of uncovered, public-interest stories that the public does not know about because there are no journalists available to cover them due to lack of funding for an investigation. Publicize that big-time.</p>
<p>Investigative reporting often sparks public outrage and wrongs get righted. Might the public also be outraged by wrongdoing that continues because there are not enough watchdogs to do the work it takes to stop it?</p>
<p>I forgot who said it, but a quote a recall recently predicted a period of low-level corruption growing in many cities where traditional media have declined significantly.</p>
<p>Could publicizing this to a broader audience be a more effective strategy than issuing reports, like the Columbia one released yesterday, that get read mostly by media people? If commercial models cannot be found to support large-scale accountability journalism in the wake of old media failures, surely we need to get more people interested in supporting the new wave of press watchdogs.</p>
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		<title>By: Josh</title>
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		<dc:creator>Josh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Oct 2009 15:46:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Steve - in thinking about audience and reports like this one, and the Knight Commission report and even our own Free Press report, I wonder what recommendations we can make about how such reports are written, distributed, and discussed. At our Denver event we tried to take the themes and issues we discussed in our report from May and break them out and apply them to a local community and give local people a chance to weigh in and debate. For all of these reports do you think we need a &quot;ground strategy&quot; to more fully engage and hear from local people about how they see these issues and how it impacts their community? What format do you think would be useful - was the Denver event close? (here is a link to our report from May: http://www.freepress.net/node/57076)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Steve &#8211; in thinking about audience and reports like this one, and the Knight Commission report and even our own Free Press report, I wonder what recommendations we can make about how such reports are written, distributed, and discussed. At our Denver event we tried to take the themes and issues we discussed in our report from May and break them out and apply them to a local community and give local people a chance to weigh in and debate. For all of these reports do you think we need a &#8220;ground strategy&#8221; to more fully engage and hear from local people about how they see these issues and how it impacts their community? What format do you think would be useful &#8211; was the Denver event close? (here is a link to our report from May: <a href="http://www.freepress.net/node/57076)" rel="nofollow">http://www.freepress.net/node/57076)</a></p>
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		<title>By: Taylor Walsh</title>
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		<dc:creator>Taylor Walsh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Oct 2009 05:42:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I suppose I am not surprised to see how completely the industry is apparently giving up on trying to re-fashion a financially sustainable intermediary role between local businesses and residents.  Is it just me, or is there some eagerness for this transition to actually take place?  To get out from under the weight of advertisers?  And therefore from under the weight of client-sensitive management?  

But those firms and their people are also part of the community, and more to the point part of many communities when viewed through the digital prism.  Too early to abandon looking for alternative arrangements.  IMHO.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I suppose I am not surprised to see how completely the industry is apparently giving up on trying to re-fashion a financially sustainable intermediary role between local businesses and residents.  Is it just me, or is there some eagerness for this transition to actually take place?  To get out from under the weight of advertisers?  And therefore from under the weight of client-sensitive management?  </p>
<p>But those firms and their people are also part of the community, and more to the point part of many communities when viewed through the digital prism.  Too early to abandon looking for alternative arrangements.  IMHO.</p>
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