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	<description>Journalist, consultant, entrepreneur ... Musings on digital media, Web 2.0+, &#38; news in the Internet era</description>
	<pubDate>Sat, 04 Jul 2009 08:10:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>Comment on Alternatives to paid-online-news cliff jumping by Newspapers need to reinvent &#124; Save the Media</title>
		<link>http://steveouting.com/2009/06/03/alternatives-to-paid-online-news-cliff-jumping/#comment-28451</link>
		<dc:creator>Newspapers need to reinvent &#124; Save the Media</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Jul 2009 18:01:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] a metaphor or simile about the state of the news business. The news business has been compared to lemmings, railroads and, of course, the horse and buggy.  (Read Nick Bergus&#8217; post on the topic for [...]</description>
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		<title>Comment on When Twitter beats local news outlets by How to use Twitter for local news &#171; PRESENTability with DFG</title>
		<link>http://steveouting.com/2008/08/20/when-twitter-beats-local-news-outlets/#comment-28419</link>
		<dc:creator>How to use Twitter for local news &#171; PRESENTability with DFG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Jul 2009 02:22:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] explained by Steve Outing in his post: When Twitter beats local news outlets&#160;  Something happens locally, like, say, a fire; there’s a lot of smoke in the distance, and [...]</description>
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		<title>Comment on Paying for news content: The continuum spreads wider by Steve Outing</title>
		<link>http://steveouting.com/2009/06/26/paying-for-news-content-the-continuum-spreads-wider/#comment-28285</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve Outing</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jun 2009 22:43:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks, Martin. I clarified in the item with a small edit.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, Martin. I clarified in the item with a small edit.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Paying for news content: The continuum spreads wider by Martin Langeveld</title>
		<link>http://steveouting.com/2009/06/26/paying-for-news-content-the-continuum-spreads-wider/#comment-28282</link>
		<dc:creator>Martin Langeveld</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jun 2009 21:58:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the post, Steve -- one clarification: monthly subscription is completely optional.  Circulate will go to work for you for free.  The hypothetical $5 a  month subscription would get you blanket access to premium content at various participating sites, but it's not central to the plan, in contrast to Journalism Online's plan.  Without a mostly-free approach, you're right that it would be hard to get much traction.  Our analysis says that the big opportunity on this tool is for publishers to improve ad revenue, not subscription revenue.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the post, Steve &#8212; one clarification: monthly subscription is completely optional.  Circulate will go to work for you for free.  The hypothetical $5 a  month subscription would get you blanket access to premium content at various participating sites, but it&#8217;s not central to the plan, in contrast to Journalism Online&#8217;s plan.  Without a mostly-free approach, you&#8217;re right that it would be hard to get much traction.  Our analysis says that the big opportunity on this tool is for publishers to improve ad revenue, not subscription revenue.</p>
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		<title>Comment on &#8216;Voluntary won&#8217;t work!&#8217; reminds me of &#8216;Craig who?&#8217; by Digidave</title>
		<link>http://steveouting.com/2009/06/20/voluntary-wont-work-reminds-me-of-craig-who/#comment-27972</link>
		<dc:creator>Digidave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Jun 2009 00:39:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would like to graciously throw Spot.Us in the ring. 

It isn't as "micro" as the ones above. But it is a way for news organizations to solicit donations to help pay for their freelancers. 

w00t. 

And keep up the good stuff Steve.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would like to graciously throw Spot.Us in the ring. </p>
<p>It isn&#8217;t as &#8220;micro&#8221; as the ones above. But it is a way for news organizations to solicit donations to help pay for their freelancers. </p>
<p>w00t. </p>
<p>And keep up the good stuff Steve.</p>
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		<title>Comment on &#8216;Voluntary won&#8217;t work!&#8217; reminds me of &#8216;Craig who?&#8217; by Stu Lowndes</title>
		<link>http://steveouting.com/2009/06/20/voluntary-wont-work-reminds-me-of-craig-who/#comment-27801</link>
		<dc:creator>Stu Lowndes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Jun 2009 21:02:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Steve,

I have difficulty with two words: Free and voluntary.

Newspapers continue to be a "viable" media entity because print advertisers continue to believe the spiel of paper-backed power brokers, a  rather disturbing reflection of an industry founded on the premise of public truths and private interests.

These carpetbaggers continue to grasp at straws, unwilling to change, unwilling to adapt, and unwilling to accept the many visions of a digital marketplace. They seem to find comfort and security in the company of fools and charlatans.  

Meanwhile, FREE in the media has usually been bought and paid for by the consumer with the compliments of Widgets Inc., Preparation-H, and Benny the Barber. The editorial message is spiced and sliced and packaged with a need or a want or a desire to buy or sell in a never-ending game of publicity and promotion.

And, now, in this dawn of digital delivery the newspaper publisher would like the reader to pay for editorial content?  Even 10 cents a yarn is exorbitant if the article or page has been pre-paid by an advertiser. 

It's getting a little ridiculous to see some newspapers charge for content ... to read an obit!
 
Voluntary financial support?

Wikipedia, yes.

The Daily Rag, no.

If you have to ask why, you're part of the problem, not the solution. 

Mandatory fees?

Try it. 

Please!

Prove me wrong.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Steve,</p>
<p>I have difficulty with two words: Free and voluntary.</p>
<p>Newspapers continue to be a &#8220;viable&#8221; media entity because print advertisers continue to believe the spiel of paper-backed power brokers, a  rather disturbing reflection of an industry founded on the premise of public truths and private interests.</p>
<p>These carpetbaggers continue to grasp at straws, unwilling to change, unwilling to adapt, and unwilling to accept the many visions of a digital marketplace. They seem to find comfort and security in the company of fools and charlatans.  </p>
<p>Meanwhile, FREE in the media has usually been bought and paid for by the consumer with the compliments of Widgets Inc., Preparation-H, and Benny the Barber. The editorial message is spiced and sliced and packaged with a need or a want or a desire to buy or sell in a never-ending game of publicity and promotion.</p>
<p>And, now, in this dawn of digital delivery the newspaper publisher would like the reader to pay for editorial content?  Even 10 cents a yarn is exorbitant if the article or page has been pre-paid by an advertiser. </p>
<p>It&#8217;s getting a little ridiculous to see some newspapers charge for content &#8230; to read an obit!</p>
<p>Voluntary financial support?</p>
<p>Wikipedia, yes.</p>
<p>The Daily Rag, no.</p>
<p>If you have to ask why, you&#8217;re part of the problem, not the solution. </p>
<p>Mandatory fees?</p>
<p>Try it. </p>
<p>Please!</p>
<p>Prove me wrong.</p>
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		<title>Comment on &#8216;Voluntary won&#8217;t work!&#8217; reminds me of &#8216;Craig who?&#8217; by Crosbie Fitch</title>
		<link>http://steveouting.com/2009/06/20/voluntary-wont-work-reminds-me-of-craig-who/#comment-27774</link>
		<dc:creator>Crosbie Fitch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Jun 2009 08:08:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think this approach should be called micropatronage. 

It's enabling each of the most interested members of the audience to pay the artist a little to produce and publish good work - instead of a wealthy few patrons (state or plutocrat).

This is a reversion to the natural business model for intellectual work. The 18th century legal artifice that enabled the sale of copies is over (the public are taking back their natural liberty to make copies).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think this approach should be called micropatronage. </p>
<p>It&#8217;s enabling each of the most interested members of the audience to pay the artist a little to produce and publish good work - instead of a wealthy few patrons (state or plutocrat).</p>
<p>This is a reversion to the natural business model for intellectual work. The 18th century legal artifice that enabled the sale of copies is over (the public are taking back their natural liberty to make copies).</p>
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		<title>Comment on Can Twitter influence press behavior? by Spinewatch: Can Link Journalism Change How the Media Covers the Presidential Election Campaign? &#124; GetAnswers.ws</title>
		<link>http://steveouting.com/2008/09/14/can-twitter-influence-press-behavior/#comment-27499</link>
		<dc:creator>Spinewatch: Can Link Journalism Change How the Media Covers the Presidential Election Campaign? &#124; GetAnswers.ws</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Jun 2009 03:20:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] the Spinewatch meme. Use the #spinewatch tag on Twitter, or on other social bookmarking services. (Steve Outing has a great post on using Twitter for spinewatch, although he ends with a caution on using open systems, because [...]</description>
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		<title>Comment on Why news companies should go into the Internet cafe business by Journalism Business Idea - the Newsroom Cafe &#171; DigiDave - Journalism is a Process, Not a Product</title>
		<link>http://steveouting.com/2008/02/29/why-news-companies-should-go-into-the-internet-cafe-business/#comment-27459</link>
		<dc:creator>Journalism Business Idea - the Newsroom Cafe &#171; DigiDave - Journalism is a Process, Not a Product</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Jun 2009 20:15:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Steve Outing: Why news companies should go into the Internet cafe business [...]</description>
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		<title>Comment on No solution to newspaper problems? Hah! by Headline Commentary June 8-14 &#124; Health Content Advisors</title>
		<link>http://steveouting.com/2009/06/11/no-solution-to-newspaper-problems-hah/#comment-27442</link>
		<dc:creator>Headline Commentary June 8-14 &#124; Health Content Advisors</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Jun 2009 17:19:10 +0000</pubDate>
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